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Both the Cranach & main WorldMagBlog have recently had entries (and lengthy comment threads) on the topic of churches accepting offerings via credit cards, debit cards, and/or automatic/direct-draft bank withdrawals.
I prefer the better, albeit shorter, Cranach discussion — “Tithing by Credit Card” — to the longer thread over at the main blog — “Technological Tithing”. Why? Well, I guess it boils down to the fact that I find the main blog to be far more inundated with rank Pietism. I have very little patience for “stewardship” that is merely a thinly veiled attempt to bludgeon people with the Law, either by guilting them into giving, or by enticing them with the idea that giving will earn them “good works” chits.
I’m not a huge fan of using the word “tithing” either. Probably due to the fact/observation that it has been co-opted by the Pietists. It’s also somewhat synonymous with the idea of giving 10% — and the 10% OT requirement (i.e., Civil Law) is not binding on us any more. That, however, is not always acknowledged by the Pietists. Thus, I would prefer to use the word “offerings”.
In any event, there’s lots of good discussion on the topic of electronic submission of offerings. I’m not quite sure just what the definitive and/or correct position is regarding electronic submissions; however, I’m inclined to think that it’s an innovation that we might not need. That being said, if someone tried to bind my conscience by stating that I couldn’t, well then I guess I’d have to set it up…
What is pretty clear to me, though, is that the use of credit cards is most definitely not a good thing. Why? Because credit cards make it so much easier to get into debt than do debit cards or automatic drafts. In essence, debit cards & auto-drafts are the same as paper checks — they are tied to checking accounts. If there’s no money in them, writing a check for your offering will not get you into debt (beyond any bounced check fees, of course…). Credit cards, however don’t offer any such protection. They’ll gladly let you run up your debt.
Churches should not aid, condone, solicit such temptation, much less turn a blind eye to it and/or use it to ensure congregational cash flows.
-ghp�



2 Comments so far ...
World Mag Blog main page and pietism? Really? Gee, I never noticed.
I quit reading a while ago.
I guess in the discussion of credit cards and offerings, I was thinking of just the bank account credit cards. You make a good point about encouraging actual credit card use, considering the amount of debt in this country.
The giving in our new church seems to be very high - actually we are wealthy - and I have not once in three years heard a sermon on giving or tithing. We have studied stewardship in Bible Study, but no sermons on giving outside of what would be covered in scripture. Conversely, our ELCA megachurch which is in debt in the millions and has 7,000 parishioners and spends a month of each year directly preaching on tithing. They spend thousands on campaigns to raise money. To what end? They are fiscally in much worse shape that our church less than a mile away with a growing membership and money to spend on helping each other (education, school, outreach, etc).
Comment on November 16, 2005 11:12 amYou nailed it, TK, in describing the differences between your current congregation & your previous ELCA congregation. It’s the difference between Gospel-based stewardship (which, I would contend is a more holistic approach) and Law-based stewardship, which is very narrow in its focus/approach.
The Law doesn’t/won’t/can’t leave things to “chance” — thus everything must be spelled out, and all the talking points must be specifically addressed, over & over, until the desired result is reached.
The Gospel doesn’t leave things to “chance” either, but then it doesn’t have to. Those who are free in the Gospel will cheerfully give of their gifts without having to be bludgeoned.
The thing is, the Old Adam in each of us (including pastors & congregational treasurers!) just hates to take that Gospel “risk”…
-ghp
Comment on November 16, 2005 03:49 pm